Comments on: Temptation Plus Rationalization Equals Relapse http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/2009/01/temptation-plus-rationalization-equals-relapse/ Quitting is no longer an option... Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:49:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joe http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/2009/01/temptation-plus-rationalization-equals-relapse/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Joe Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:39:42 +0000 http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/?p=24#comment-19 Hey guys, Stu you and I have the same number of years (29)of chewing. Wow the last three days (days 9-11) were tough. After feeling I was sailing the 'quit' I started having nitemares. I wonder if it was related to my changing bio-chemistry. And my body was angry I wasn't giving in to cope addiction, and it came out in my dreams. I haven't been having racing thoughts of buying chew at the store. I have been emotional and irritable. Today, however, has been a good day. Did some meditation and I have been making it a point to eat, exercise and sleep well. Matt, I used copenhagen as an appetite suppressant when I wanted seconds on an entree or dessert. I have worked out for thirty years significantly and my thoughts were I'd rather have a dip then gain weight. Pretty ilogical huh? Hey guys,
Stu you and I have the same number of years (29)of chewing. Wow the last three days (days 9-11) were tough. After feeling I was sailing the ‘quit’ I started having nitemares. I wonder if it was related to my changing bio-chemistry. And my body was angry I wasn’t giving in to cope addiction, and it came out in my dreams. I haven’t been having racing thoughts of buying chew at the store. I have been emotional and irritable. Today, however, has been a good day. Did some meditation and I have been making it a point to eat, exercise and sleep well.
Matt, I used copenhagen as an appetite suppressant when I wanted seconds on an entree or dessert. I have worked out for thirty years significantly and my thoughts were I’d rather have a dip then gain weight. Pretty ilogical huh?

]]> By: Addicted To Snuff » Copenhagen meets YouTube http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/2009/01/temptation-plus-rationalization-equals-relapse/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Addicted To Snuff » Copenhagen meets YouTube Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:55:29 +0000 http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/?p=24#comment-17 [...] first thought relates somewhat to the post on January 12th about rationalization of the addiction. Over the years of reading about the harmful effects of snuff use, I learned that many people [...] [...] first thought relates somewhat to the post on January 12th about rationalization of the addiction. Over the years of reading about the harmful effects of snuff use, I learned that many people [...]

]]> By: admin http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/2009/01/temptation-plus-rationalization-equals-relapse/comment-page-1/#comment-16 admin Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:48:16 +0000 http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/?p=24#comment-16 Stu, Thanks for the post. Believe me, I don't find it hard to believe that you made it a year and then relapsed. What most people don't understand about tobacco and nicotine addiction, is that it has to be treated like drug and alcohol addiction. You can NEVER go back, not even once because the habit will pick up right where it left off. I know that even if it is 5 or 10 years down the road without Copenhagen, I will still think about it using from time to time. I just hope that I can make it to the 5 or 10 years down the road. Have you had any signs or health issues because of your 29 year habit? Matt Stu,

Thanks for the post. Believe me, I don’t find it hard to believe that you made it a year and then relapsed. What most people don’t understand about tobacco and nicotine addiction, is that it has to be treated like drug and alcohol addiction. You can NEVER go back, not even once because the habit will pick up right where it left off. I know that even if it is 5 or 10 years down the road without Copenhagen, I will still think about it using from time to time. I just hope that I can make it to the 5 or 10 years down the road. Have you had any signs or health issues because of your 29 year habit?

Matt

]]> By: admin http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/2009/01/temptation-plus-rationalization-equals-relapse/comment-page-1/#comment-15 admin Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:44:20 +0000 http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/?p=24#comment-15 Hey Joe, Thanks for the post. The one thing in your comment that really stuck out to me was using your 'dental status' as motivation. The sad truth for me, as much as I don't want to admit it, is that I haven't been to a dentist in over five years. I'm not sure if it is fear of finding out bad news, or just knowing that as long as I continued to dip, what was point in going. I have made a plan to not only see a dentist after being quit for six months, but to get my smile back with an assload of dental work. I know that making a financial investment will only help me to stay quit. Also, could you talk more about using snuff as an 'over the counter' appetite suppressant? Matt Hey Joe,

Thanks for the post. The one thing in your comment that really stuck out to me was using your ‘dental status’ as motivation. The sad truth for me, as much as I don’t want to admit it, is that I haven’t been to a dentist in over five years. I’m not sure if it is fear of finding out bad news, or just knowing that as long as I continued to dip, what was point in going. I have made a plan to not only see a dentist after being quit for six months, but to get my smile back with an assload of dental work. I know that making a financial investment will only help me to stay quit.

Also, could you talk more about using snuff as an ‘over the counter’ appetite suppressant?

Matt

]]> By: Stu http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/2009/01/temptation-plus-rationalization-equals-relapse/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Stu Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:16:36 +0000 http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/?p=24#comment-14 Hope you are staying with it. I have dipped copenhagen now for 29 years. I quit once for a whole year. Started back!! can you believe it. that's how strong the urge is. It calms down then hits you again to 7 months down the round. You will try and rationalize just trying one dip anyway you can. It's tough but I know it can be done. I have a freind that has quit now for about 5 years. Of course he tells me sometimes he still thinks about it. Snuff gets so intertwined within our daily lives. Me - i can't think without it. I can't work with my hands without it. I have to have it after I eat. I would drive 100 miles to get it - no problem. Good Luck Hope you are staying with it. I have dipped copenhagen now for 29 years. I quit once for a whole year. Started back!! can you believe it. that’s how strong the urge is. It calms down then hits you again to 7 months down the round. You will try and rationalize just trying one dip anyway you can. It’s tough but I know it can be done. I have a freind that has quit now for about 5 years. Of course he tells me sometimes he still thinks about it. Snuff gets so intertwined within our daily lives. Me – i can’t think without it. I can’t work with my hands without it. I have to have it after I eat. I would drive 100 miles to get it – no problem. Good Luck

]]> By: Joe http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/2009/01/temptation-plus-rationalization-equals-relapse/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Joe Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:11:26 +0000 http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/?p=24#comment-13 Hi Matt and other 'quitters', Yes it is interesting regarding the rationalizations coming from our brain. The two I notice swirling in my noggin are; "I'm not working as efficiently at my job" and "I'm on my way to being chubby". I haven't had the strong urges to go to the store for a can of 'Cope', but I am feeling anxious more than normal. One of the issues working in my favor is that I have had tangible issues with my teeth (yea some advantage). I have lost two molars because I didn't go to the dentist consistantly. In the last three years, I popped ibuprofin dialy so I wouldn't feel the discomfort. So there lies my motivation. So Matt...it's a great time for you to quit. The five extra years I chewed seemed to be when I started getting some symptoms from chewing. Nothing like the pictures of guys having having their tongue or jaw missing.... Hi Matt and other ‘quitters’,
Yes it is interesting regarding the rationalizations coming from our brain. The two I notice swirling in my noggin are; “I’m not working as efficiently at my job” and “I’m on my way to being chubby”. I haven’t had the strong urges to go to the store for a can of ‘Cope’, but I am feeling anxious more than normal.
One of the issues working in my favor is that I have had tangible issues with my teeth (yea some advantage). I have lost two molars because I didn’t go to the dentist consistantly. In the last three years, I popped ibuprofin dialy so I wouldn’t feel the discomfort. So there lies my motivation.
So Matt…it’s a great time for you to quit. The five extra years I chewed seemed to be when I started getting some symptoms from chewing. Nothing like the pictures of guys having having their tongue or jaw missing….

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